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	<title>Comments on: Point 2 &#8211; Adopt a philosophy of cooperation where everyone wins and teach it to everyone</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Kohrell</title>
		<link>http://pmstudent.com/point-2-deming-in-project-management/#comment-30132</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Kohrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imran, have enjoyed Josh&#039;s blog and added it to our list.  You likely have already answered this for yourself but wanted to pick up your question on residual versus secondary risk - it arises often in our course delivery.

In a nutshell, secondary risk are a result of your risk management strategies for a triggered even; residual risk are those things/risks that were not identified during risk identification.  

I shared more here:

http://blog.tapuniversity.com/2010/12/28/secondary-risk-versus-residual-risk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imran, have enjoyed Josh&#8217;s blog and added it to our list.  You likely have already answered this for yourself but wanted to pick up your question on residual versus secondary risk &#8211; it arises often in our course delivery.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, secondary risk are a result of your risk management strategies for a triggered even; residual risk are those things/risks that were not identified during risk identification.  </p>
<p>I shared more here:</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://blog.tapuniversity.com/2010/12/28/secondary-risk-versus-residual-risk/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.tapuniversity.com/2010/12/28/secondary-risk-versus-residual-risk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Imran Shamim</title>
		<link>http://pmstudent.com/point-2-deming-in-project-management/#comment-12718</link>
		<dc:creator>Imran Shamim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh, 
Pl let us know the subtle difference between Project Team and Proj Mgt Team.
Please also explain the difference between secondary risk (that arises as a result of Risk response plan-RRP) and residual risk (that remains after RRP).

Regards,
Imran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,<br />
Pl let us know the subtle difference between Project Team and Proj Mgt Team.<br />
Please also explain the difference between secondary risk (that arises as a result of Risk response plan-RRP) and residual risk (that remains after RRP).</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Imran</p>
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		<title>By: Imran Shamim</title>
		<link>http://pmstudent.com/point-2-deming-in-project-management/#comment-24194</link>
		<dc:creator>Imran Shamim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh, 
Pl let us know the subtle difference between Project Team and Proj Mgt Team.
Please also explain the difference between secondary risk (that arises as a result of Risk response plan-RRP) and residual risk (that remains after RRP).

Regards,
Imran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,<br />
Pl let us know the subtle difference between Project Team and Proj Mgt Team.<br />
Please also explain the difference between secondary risk (that arises as a result of Risk response plan-RRP) and residual risk (that remains after RRP).</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Imran</p>
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		<title>By: Imran Shamim</title>
		<link>http://pmstudent.com/point-2-deming-in-project-management/#comment-12630</link>
		<dc:creator>Imran Shamim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a class of knowledge you have shared. Bundle of thanks. In urdu here in Pakistan &quot;josheela&quot; means an ambitious person, let me frankly tell you that your ways of explaining things are awesome and &#039;You are a real JOSHEELA mentor in promoting Proj Mgt&#039;. Though i attended 5-D training course but it was too intensive to grasp all concepts of PMBOK.

N.B. I also access your mails from helixpk@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a class of knowledge you have shared. Bundle of thanks. In urdu here in Pakistan &#8220;josheela&#8221; means an ambitious person, let me frankly tell you that your ways of explaining things are awesome and &#8216;You are a real JOSHEELA mentor in promoting Proj Mgt&#8217;. Though i attended 5-D training course but it was too intensive to grasp all concepts of PMBOK.</p>
<p>N.B. I also access your mails from <a target="_blank" href="mailto:helixpk@gmail.com">helixpk@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Imran Shamim</title>
		<link>http://pmstudent.com/point-2-deming-in-project-management/#comment-24193</link>
		<dc:creator>Imran Shamim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a class of knowledge you have shared. Bundle of thanks. In urdu here in Pakistan &quot;josheela&quot; means an ambitious person, let me frankly tell you that your ways of explaining things are awesome and &#039;You are a real JOSHEELA mentor in promoting Proj Mgt&#039;. Though i attended 5-D training course but it was too intensive to grasp all concepts of PMBOK.

N.B. I also access your mails from helixpk@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a class of knowledge you have shared. Bundle of thanks. In urdu here in Pakistan &#8220;josheela&#8221; means an ambitious person, let me frankly tell you that your ways of explaining things are awesome and &#8216;You are a real JOSHEELA mentor in promoting Proj Mgt&#8217;. Though i attended 5-D training course but it was too intensive to grasp all concepts of PMBOK.</p>
<p>N.B. I also access your mails from <a target="_blank" href="mailto:helixpk@gmail.com">helixpk@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh Nankivel</title>
		<link>http://pmstudent.com/point-2-deming-in-project-management/#comment-12627</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Nankivel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the question!  Gold plating is a subtle difference.  With gold plating, the project team adds features or functionality that are not required.  I&#039;ve run into this on projects where the developers (and myself when I was a developer) did extra things because they were &quot;cool&quot;.  We didn&#039;t go through the change process, so this extra work is unaccounted for in the original plan.

As a result, gold plating leads to a slip in schedule or decreased quality of something that really WAS part of the true requirements for the project.

I&#039;m suggesting here that we use the change control processes to ensure that these &quot;cool&quot; things we can add really are the right decisions for the project as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the question!  Gold plating is a subtle difference.  With gold plating, the project team adds features or functionality that are not required.  I&#8217;ve run into this on projects where the developers (and myself when I was a developer) did extra things because they were &#8220;cool&#8221;.  We didn&#8217;t go through the change process, so this extra work is unaccounted for in the original plan.</p>
<p>As a result, gold plating leads to a slip in schedule or decreased quality of something that really WAS part of the true requirements for the project.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m suggesting here that we use the change control processes to ensure that these &#8220;cool&#8221; things we can add really are the right decisions for the project as a whole.</p>
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